I've got a couple of T/C Hawkens in 50 cal ,I've had good luck with 85 grs FFg and a .490" RB and a .010 patch, a bud who muzzleloads a lot said I need to patch tighter yet. Was down in Denver at the gunshow last weekend and found a super clean and nice 54 cal T/C Hawken for $300. Looking forward to using that also. MB

" Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "