This time of year the elk aren't likely to be anywhere near where they'll be in Oct or Nov. After the Sept rut, through Oct. the cows will begin to bunch in large herds. In late Oct it's not uncommon to see 75 to 100 cows without a bull in the bunch. The bulls will separate and go into hiding until the snow gets deep. They probably won't be far away but they're hard to find.


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― George Orwell

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