I decided on the used 450!

The biggest items were price, and needing to spray weeds gravity irrigate. The wife will use it. And I guess the don't overheat much!
The rebates were already $600 dollars and they doubted they would be much more then $150 more.

And the power steering works inverse of other brands due to it being a brushless motor. Really help with weed spraying irrigation ditches!

I also needed smaller size as it may go into a small toyhauler that is tighter than most bikes.

Thanks for your advice.

Last edited by Angus1895; 07/18/19.
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