Shoulder fired - 8 Bore African Trade gun. 2oz roundball, 210gr Swiss fg, musket cap and a metal buttplate.

Handgun - .375JDJ Contender. 14" barrel and max handloads under a Sierra 300gr SP. Shot that one a lot. Too much, actually, along with a .454 Casull with 300gr handloads. Wound up with ulnar nerve damage. I can't shoot heavy recoiling handguns anymore. even a warm .45 Colt load is uncomfortable.

Ed

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