I loaded a muzzleloader with 150 grains of 777 and a 300 Gr XTP. Then proceeded to leave the ramrod in the barrel. I dont know what other guns kick like, but I may have taken a couple years off my lifespan with that one shot. The ramrod engaged the rifling and actually hit the target, spinning itself into a spiral somewhere in flight. If that entire projectile had been a solid bullet, it could do a Chicago heart shot on a brontosaurus.