I like the 165-8 for Elk but the 150 and even 130 will do just fine. Been loading 150 BT for deer in my 300WM and a max charge of R16 will fold them up like a taco. Check the Alliant and Speer sites for the particulars. R23 is another to check out for it's excellent temperature change resistance.


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