We have killed bull elk side by side , .264 and the .270 with the same bullet and no appreciable difference. The .264 win is one of the best 6.5's ever. The problem with it and most of the belted .284' s is their need of a long barrel. That is the deal breaker, a 22" barrel/ repeating rifle is my criteria. This is where the .270, 280 7/08 and their like shine,imo
