In reading the posting on this subject, it occurred to me how lucky I must be. I currently have "hunting" rifles using barrels from Lilja, Hart and Shilen. All are stainless steel and one is even a stainless select. None of the rifle barrels I have are wonky, bad or suck. Lucky, maybe, having the right individual/company screwing the said barrel to the right action in a properly bedded stock, definitely contributes to a more precision rifle capable of generating smaller groups. I would think that some individuals might need to look in the mirror to find the problem instead of the name on the barrel. Consider the pot stirred.