it was good to hear that the rem hp's worked well. i haven't shot any of those. but find the 150 & 170 rem CL most suitable.

back in the day i acquired a marlin 30-30 and it came with some half box or so of winchester 150? grain hollowpoints.

shot a little 5 point e. whitetail in a honeysuckle patch. he jumped across the branch, and i shot again.

got to the house, and the copper casings were stuck in the on side hide. the lead cores penetrated.

they worked, but that second shot was probably necessary. now i'm a rem CL fan in 170.