We (me, friend, nephew) haven't had those problems on deer with the 95 gr. SST or Bal Tip, or the Fusion in factory rounds. My friend may move to Partitions "just because." I've loaded the 80 gr. TTSX this season, but I haven't lined up on a shooter yet. My spot was crawling with small horned (even if not small bodied) spikes last weekend, and I didn't feel like paying a club fine.