Originally Posted by Ringman
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Ringman

Again you are wrong. I am showing you you constantly depend on faith. What evidence to you have for something from nothing? Your faith!


Rich, I will not attack your faith. But will explain mine in similar terms.
You believe God is eternal and omnipresent. You know not from whence God came, nor do you care. Correct??

I believe in conservation of matter and energy. I know not where the matter/energy of the universe came from. I know only that it exists.

Our faith is actually quite comparable.


You are mistaken. I know Infinite Intelligent Energy had no beginning. God is omnipotent, omniscient, and be omnipresent. All matter and energy come from Him. He created conservation of energy AND entropy.



You don't know any such thing. You appear to be conflating knowledge with faith.

Nor is it a solution to propose an even more complex assumption, a God (whatever that is), as an explanation for a vast and complex universe.