When I was looking for the first rifle for my kids I stumbled on an older Ruger 77 in 250 Savage that I couldn't pass up. I cut an inch off the stock and added a 1/2 inch recoil pad and they killed a several deer, a black bear, and a ton of groundhogs with that rifle before moving up. I can't wait to teach my grandkids to shoot it and it would probably be the last rifle I ever sold, mostly for sentimental reasons. It shoots any 100 grain cup-and-core in to nice little 1" groups all day and has killed everything we've asked it to.