Thanks MD. Memory is no what it used to be, now I recall Phi'ls posting on the 220. I believe that is one where Nosler moved the partition forward slightly more than the 200 grain even. That and lower velocity will provide some major penetration. The old sourdoughs liked the various 220's for the same reason. They were even used on whale and walrus which are pretty big animals. usually along with a harpoon.

I wish Phil would write more, maybe a collaboration with you could motivate him?

"When you disarm the people, you commence to offend them and show that you distrust them either through cowardice or lack of confidence, and both of these opinions generate hatred." Niccolo Machiavelli