Wow, quite the difference in opinion on these things. Thanks all for sharing your experiences with them. Are particularly interested in the 9mm version of said pistol. It’s use would be having the living crap shot out of it and living on the pickup floor during its off time. One of my family members wants to expand his shooting experiences away from constant glocking. I am confident in my expert from Florida giving me the full lowdown shortly. Hope he is not stranded out in the glades drinking beer and eating fried gator balls tonight. Again my thanks, much to ponder here.