Originally Posted by devnull
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by SKane
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by rockdoc
Very, very sad. RIP. I have seen videos of his work. He was a real craftsman.

Depression is a real and deadly burden that can strike anyone, anytime.

Very true.

Too bad depression is such a dark illness, more than one way.

Dark for the victim, dark in that it's not spoken about enough, lingers in the shadows until it's too late.

And, then there's the lingering guilt and remorse of family and friends. "Why didn't we see this coming, what could be have done, etc. etc..." Blaming themselves for something they probably couldn't have prevented. Once someone makes up his or her mind, it's hard to intervene...

Closure is such cases is more often than not, really difficult...

DF





So true. Not too long ago I was reading about this very topic (suicide/depression) in the campfire forum.
And based on the volume of ignorance shown in that thread, there's a lot more education and enlightenment that needs to happen around depression.

Sad deal. frown



It tends to get real personal when you see it up close, when it involves family or friends.

This in not something to just brush off because it's uncomfortable.

It's real and all too prevalent.

You can't understand something you haven't experienced, haven't walked in their moccasins.

People tend to discount what they don't understand or find objectionable. This is one topic that refused to be swept under the rug...

DF


Absolutely spot on. I'm dealing with it now as my 15-year old son took his own life in late May. It was painful to read this about Robert as I had always respected his work. The pain and torment left in loved ones after a loved one decides this path is beyond comprehension. As stated in my other thread, you can't begin to really understand the "low" they're in as your mind isn't in the same place.

I remember reading your post.

I could feel your anguish, but no way could I fully experience what you were and are going thru.

I feel for the Gradous family and friends. There's not much one can say, other than to just be there for them.

Sometimes it's awkward the way people interact with the family, making it uncomfortable for everyone.

I'm sure you experienced some of that, people trying to say the right thing when there really is no "right thing".

DF