If you can find one the 3rd edn of the Lyman Shotshell Handbook on pages 266-267 lists a dozen Buckshot loads utilizing the AA hull, some of the loads actually utilizing the WAA12R (red) wad. And their were no loads utilizing 800x. In my old Dupont manuals they only show the use of straight wall hulls for buck, nor did they show use of 800x for buck loads. Sometimes you can't have everything you want easily. MB
