Originally Posted by Tarquin
Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
You mistake faith and facts. Facts are verifiable. Faith is made up to try and explain things not understood and devoid of proof. There are many without faith but have facts. Like they say, science doesn't know everything, religion knows nothing.


Poor Tarquin doesn't have a clue. Zilch, Zip, Nada, clueless. All wind, no substance.


The point, moron, is that you incessantly exempt your own metaphys (your own "faith") from your criticism of faith when in fact your criticism of faith implicates yours as much as that of any theist. Regrettably, but you're too ignorant to understand that. Cretin.


Tarquin, double post....are you getting frantic? Losing your nerve? Of course you are. You know you are wrong but can't face it.

Poor little Tyke wink

Faith;
b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof
3 : something that is believed especially with strong conviction; especially : a system of religious beliefs <the Protestant faith>- Merriam Webster

Trust;
1 a : assured reliance on the character, ability, strength, or truth of someone or something b : one in which confidence is placed

Confidence;
1 a : a feeling or consciousness of one's powers or of reliance on one's circumstances <had perfect confidence in her ability to succeed> <met the risk with brash confidence - Merriam Webster

(assurance carries a stronger implication of certainty and may suggest arrogance or lack of objectivity in assessing one's own powers)


In other words, one builds trust and confidence through direct experience with people and things, but one has faith in matters that have not been tested.


"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things unseen. - Hebrews 11:1

1 - faith is the substance of things hoped for: your desire for the existence of a god.
2- God (as a concept) is unseen, undetectable and unknowable - in this instance, 'things not seen'
3 - faith, as substance of what you hope for, your desire for the existence of a god, is defined as being your evidence, and your foundation, for your belief in the existence of god.
4 - Hope itself is not evidence that can be used to justify a belief in 'things not seen (god in this example)'
5- Faith is based on hope (or desire), consequently faith is not a belief that is based on verifiable evidence.
6 - A belief held on the basis of faith is an unjustified or unfounded belief.