Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by gulo
Your country is already destroyed. It's not politicians that have done it.

It's the same-ol' same-ol' trajectory of rise and fall that has done it. The rules that never change. Energy equations. Overpopulation. Combinations of the two.

The good news is, it was inevitable and should feel familiar if you are a student of history. Kinda cosy in this regard.

The bad news is, you can't vote your way out of it. There is no way out of it. It makes no difference how you vote, now.

Larger forces are running the show now. Trump for instance in four years is a tiny, smelly, quasi-illiterate and strangely orange flash in a huge pan that is on the verge of forgetting him already, but covid? In less than a single year a virus has accelerated the decline by at least a decade.


Well gulo,

As Americans we like to think we are a little different in that regard...


Yes, we've all noticed how different you like to think you are. As did the Romans, the Mayans, the USSR.

But they weren't, and we aren't and you ain't.

All of them were in denial too, by the way. So you're even the same in that regard. As are most of the rest of us.



Last edited by gulo; 01/06/21.

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