;Heavy, but seem to be well made and have decent wood for the price. I paid $575 NIB for my .223x12 at a recent auction. A .308x12, also NIB, sold for more. I sold an older 6.5 Swede x12 for about $600 less than a year ago. The Swede was quite accurate with a scope. The rear open sight is mounted pretty far forward so you have a short sight radius if using the open sights.