Originally Posted by MarineHawk
A couple years ago, I was in the Park Bar in Fairplay, CO with my brother ordering a buffalo swiss burger. Modestly concerned that I was going to get shot or pistol-whipped for doing so in a place like that, I asked the waitress if they had any wine. She said sure, what kind? I said cabernet. She brought out a glass of it. It was better than I was expecting. I asked her what it was, and she told me Black Box. It was a transformational moment in my life.

I have experimented with others, and lately, I have been getting the Franzia Dark Red Blend. It’s a 5-liter box that stays fresh up to 6 weeks. That’s 6.7 bottles of wine for $18.00 at WM, or about $2.70 / bottle. That’s basically free wine – it’s cheaper than buying water. It’s darned good to me. Who knew?



Yes, Black Box and Franzia are both good values.
Constellation Brands started Black Box, and is associated with Franzia.
Constellation also owns Robert Mondavi wines, along with a number of other premium brands.

All good stuff.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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