Again, thanks all. This was a kind of "intervention" as the rifle Looney in me was going a bit too far past reason. I will continue to use both and just expand loads up and down the scale to take advantage of a particular bullet/ game animal and I've saved hundreds in the process...may use that to add a 308 to the mix just for a really light and handy carry gun to take advantage of those 130 TTSX's. Mike