Originally Posted by devnull
Savage arms was a phoenix that rose from the ashes and turned itself around with Lee Iacocca style. I believe it was Ron Coburn that was at the helm when Savage made the turn.

If Savage can do it, Remington can too if they listen to their customers and to the industry. They need to take some Marketing tips from Hornady on the cartridge front. If they start with some attention to detail on fit, finish and price, it'll go a long way.



What are you talking about? "On the cartridge front?"


That doesn't exist anymore.
The ammo branch was bought and won't be much more
than a name on the box. Nothing at all to do with the
gun maker anymore.


Remington on has become Winchester of the last 40 years.
Completely seperate companies but hearing a name.
Not a single one of them actually the brand as a free standing
company like we think of it. Being bought and sold by puppet masters.
Finally, not even being built in the "Real factory, by the real workers".


Having said that.
Remington can move ahead, maybe be better than ever. (Both of them)

On the gun side though, they are swimming upstream.
With one hand behind their back.
Towing baggage.
And it's raning. Hard!


Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!