Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by rickt300
Become? It was a hellhole back in the mid 80's.


Wrong.



I don't know, but when I was in 8th grade (roughly 1978) we had a new kid show up he said he was from Oregon and somewhere near Portland, anyways I got to talking with him and asked him why he moved to Michigan, he said "'Cause dad said we needed to get away from all the fuqking queers". I remember it so well because the teacher heard him say this and he got in trouble for using the F word.

Remembering that, I tend to believe Oregon has been f'ed up for a while.


My comment was based on actual time spent there in the 80s and mid 90s.

Most all big American cities have their problems and most have areas to avoid and have for a while. Ain’t no Big Rock Candy Mountains of big cities out there now for sure.

But a total scchitthole back then , it wasn’t .

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