Originally Posted by rj308
Originally Posted by shootem
Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
I'm just going to boycott everything Beretta. They're likely calling the shots on Burris, and you can't be too safe.

Originally Posted by rj308
Originally Posted by shootem
Originally Posted by rj308
OK, do you think that even if everyone in the world stops buying Chinese manufactured optics that this in itself is going to sink China's economy? Of course it won't. Think about it. China has vast economic interests all over the world. And even if the United states is their biggest customer, if the U.S.A. cut all trade with China, the Chinese economy would still survive. If enough people stopped buying Chinese optics to the point that it was not worth their while manufacturing them, very quickly those factories would switch over to manufacturing products that you will still be buying, embedded in products that you did not even know had Chinese manufactured parts in them. If it makes you feel better to not buy things made in China, good for you. But good luck finding enough of what you need that is not at least partially made in China.

The only 2 ways this dependency or "lack of choice" problem is going to get solved, if it ever does get solved, is 1) If the United states goes to all out war with China, all trade will be cut.
2) The United states will have to change it's government. Yes, good luck in getting that done, especially now that stealing elections is doable. The United States had a President that was working on this China problem until a way was "engineered" to remove him from office. You may find a leader with close ideals and skills, but good luck finding a leader with balls that big.

I have probably 25 rifle scopes. One of them is Chinese manufactured. I have 3 Chinese made Holosun red dot sights. These 4 optics have at least one feature that is not available on other non-Chinese brands, at least to me here in Romania. I will apologize to no one on these forums or anywhere else, for buying and using these sights. If you feel strongly that buying an occasional Chinese optic is willfully aiding and enabling the enemy, then there is a whole lot of other products you should stop buying and using. RJ


RJ, refusing to buy Communist Chinese products forcefully made by slave labor is a Good Start. Like 1000 Demoroids at the bottom of the ocean. It can’t all be accomplished at once. Government must be changed and that is coming. My fear is when stealing elections is no longer accepted by the American people the Socialist in charge will attempt to use military force to keep us from presenting our grievances to Washington in person. The result will be declaring war on the people in violation of the Constitution. At that point it would be guerrila warfare against an illegal government. That government would not stand and the result.......good I hope.

In the meanwhile are those few features of Holosun really worth YOU supporting Communism, and the people who profit from it? Really. Holosun needs to move manufacturing out of Communist control or die from lack of sales. Primary Arms is another.

I will never stop. Resistance begins with one person. Thank God we “one persons” are coming together. BOYCOTT COMMUNIST CHINA



Shootem, "In the meanwhile" does that car you're driving really worth YOU supporting Communism and the people who profit from it? You gave the Chinese way more money for the Chinese made parts in it than I did for those few Holosuns. RJ


I’m talking about products with an alternative. My wife just bought a new Hyundai. We looked at other brands and bought based on a number of choices. Just so happened a Ford dealership was next door to the Hyundai dealership we used and an Explorer was one of our options. According to the info on the window sticker the Hyundai Sante Fe is more “U.S.”. than the Explorer. I can’t recall all the specs but that’s a fact. Easy enough to confirm. Plus The Sante Fe is assembled by American workers in Montgomery, AL. And the parent company, Kia, has another huge plant not far away from the Hyundai plant, in southwest Georgia. Brand names that seem American mean little anymore.

And the time has come to minimize/replace ALL Communist Chinese components. Possible? Probably not. But I don’t have to be happy about it. Computers and smart phones are the worst. The CEOs of these industries have sold their souls. Censorship, spying on citizens, illegally interfering in elections, selling personal information to the highest bidder no matter the entity or purpose. And totally beholden to the Communist Chinese and slave labor. Laws on these industries MUST be changed. But the political corruption has metastasized so deeply the removal of this cancer may require the death of the corrupt patient.

I will do everything within my minimal power to damage trade with the Communists. Some things I cannot change, many small things I can.


Shootem. A lot of what you're saying, I agree with, but a few things I don't. Do you think Hyundai does not use any Chinese parts in their cars? This is a world economy and car manufacturers do not buy all of the parts for their cars in their own country. And for them to make a profit. cost is a factor. So most times they buy from the lowest bidder that meets their part spec. I do think it is a damn shame on American government if you have to buy a foreign brand automobile to get less Chinese parts than in an American brand, if that is the case.

If China makes a move to re-aquire Taiwan in the middle of this decade, as is rumored, we have a lot more to worry about than buying Chinese optics. RJ
As a former employee of an American gun company, I can tell you for certain that not all parts of "American made" firearms are made in the USA either.