Shot my first Elk, while it was eating at one of our hay stacks, i was standing on a bunch of burlap sacks in the back of my Grandfathers International Harvester, pick up, Big dry cow, used a model 94 30-30, 1948 N.W. Colorado, I was 9 years old. we raised Beef, but we ate Elk. Times have changed for Damn sure. Rio7