I had a Daisy regular BB gun, but when I was 12 I graduated to a Crossman .22 pump up type pellet rifle. I got deadly with that thing. No starling was safe in any tree top. A Liberal mom would have a heart attack if her baby touched one of those. That thing was powerful with about 12 pumps. I usually did 10. I still have what's left of it and plan to refurb it some day.