My dad bought me a Winchester Model 370 Youth in 20 ga when I was 8. The lightweight gun kicked like a mule and I hated pulling the trigger and developed a flinch that took years to overcome. I got a Rem 1100 12 ga when I was 12 and liked it much more. I still have the 370 but I never use it. I started my sons (3) with a single shot 410 then a Beretta 303 in 20 ga.