I wrung out a super accurate .270 Kimber 84L Classic, Vortex Razor 2.5-8 that I gave my grand daughter. It shot the 100TTSX with Hunter like a laser...but it was meant for her. She is only 11, she may hunt, she may not. If not, she can sell it put it toward school. I also gave her (for her later in life) a Kimber 8400 Classic Stainless 300 WSM with a Burris FFII. It hummed the 168TTSX. I doubt she would ever shoot that one, but she can do with it what she wants. Its rare and really gorgeous. But I grew tired of both...it was time to move on....let loose the Loony!!!