The red dot site is good if you live and carry and shoot in a clean environment, but if you work or live in a dusty environment, they are not wonderful, makes no differents what you use, if you know how to use it, if you don't know how it makes a differents. Rio7
Uh Rio, we have been successfully warring w/ illum type optics for 20+ years in dusty environments.
"flaves epistle to the serious shooters nailed it, even though written by a dog pecker gnat.
Learning new schidt will get ya killed on the street
mike r