No personal experience with those exact models. I do have a Pioneer 700 though that I've been impressed with. Although I haven't had it long. But I along with a group of friends have, and use ATV's hard. I traded in a 2017 Foreman and a 2008 Rancher to get my Pioneer. Of the guys I know we have had good luck with everything made by Honda and Yamaha. Polaris has been the brand we've seen the most problems with.
