[quote=deflave][quote=Quak]WWII in europe was decided at the gates of Moscow in the Winter of 1940-41. It was all downhill from there. There was nothing the Gernans could have done once Barbarossa was crushed that could have saved them from their eventual defeat. They were not set up for attrition.
Personally i wish Hitler would have destroyed the soviet barbarian horde completely. Then the US could unleash the dogs of war and destroy the Germans in due time...and we could have.
The world has never seen a more efficient killing machine than the US. It would have been nice to have had communism dealt with in the 40s...instead we fight it still today and within our own country.
Imagine the combined strength of the US Navy and Army...we would rule the baltic...the black sea...you name it. We could have fielded 300 divisions if we wanted to. 6 divisions of combat hardened marines with the blood of the japs still dripping from their bayonets...marching t
Russia crushed the germans in front of Moscow, they crushed them in front of stalingrad, they crushed them at kursk, they crushed them in Bagration, and they crushed them in Berlin.
Where was mother green when all that was happening? [bleep] around in the desert and getting chewed up in france by conscripted cripples from the east
Hitler's stupidity caused that. Thanks to him, Barbarossa started six weeks behind schedule because he had to bail the Guineas out of Yugoslavia and Greece,, but once it launched, the Germans were going through Russia like a hot knife through butter even though they were grossly outnumbered. Then in the middle of everything, he decides to push south and weakens Army Group B on the drive to Moscow so by the time they got there they had no reserves. On top of everything else, he orders the taking of Stalingrad knowing full well superior Russian armies were massing on the flanks with only Rumanians holding part of the line, then with gives the stand and die order to von Paulus when they still had ample time to withdraw, Kurks was the same deal and by the time they got to Berlin, the German were all but spent, then again check the casualties Heinrici handed the Russians at the Seelow heights. All the Russians knew how to do was die in mass numbers, Yes they did bleed the Germans, but face it , without the US, the Germans would have won.
