I get carrying hardcast ammo for the penetration. I carry hardcast ammo for woods carry. I just can’t take the chance with over penetration in church. I carry 147 grain HST in my 9mm’s, 180 grain HST in my .40 S&W, and 230 grain HST in my .45.

Ron

People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
Orwell