Back in the 1970's all the guys with .308's were shooting 180gr. bullets, factory guys preferred Remington Core-lokt 180's. I handloaded Hornady 180's over 41.5gr. of IMR 4895, killed the biggest whitetail of my entire hunting career with that load. In recent years I have been loading Sierra Game King 165gr., a great bullet that is accurate on target and deadly on whitetails. Been shooting a .30-06 with a max. charge of IMR 4350.