Originally Posted by shrapnel
Originally Posted by denton
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by Swifty52
Originally Posted by mathman
Everybody be careful about which SD is being considered at a given time. There's velocity SD and group size SD.

So how many groups to get an accurate group SD? I may be wrong, but for me to get a fairly accurate velocity SD is 30-50 shots. So for group SD I would think to be fairly accurate minimum of 10 groups, preferably twice that. Again most won’t go to those lengths.
30+ groups.

Your intuition is about right. Starting from a baseline of 3 5-shot groups giving you your long term precision within +/- 25%, going to 12 groups gets you to +/- 12.5%, and 48 groups gets you to +/- 6.25%. Quadruple the number of samples to halve the error. It gets out of hand in a hurry.

As you say, most people aren't going to go to those lengths.

I can tell you, I’m not.

Wearing barrels out shooting groups is a sport I just don’t understand. I shoot stuff, and a group only tells me where the center of my poa is when I leave the house…

You and me both. A colossal waste of time in my world.


It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.