In the last few years I have been using Accubonds, for elk. I have yet to recover a bullet. Last years elk was 150 yards, he paused and i hit him just behind the near shoulder, and the bullet came out in front of the offside hindquarter. Cannot beat that. I have been using primarily Nosler products for nearly 60 years , and while i have tried others I have always gone back to the Nosler bullet. Between me and a few others over a 100 elk have been taken with a Nosler bullet.