Dunno, never ranged them that close. I grew up pushing tree-rows, CRP, cattails, and on occasion with landowner permission standing corn @ sunflowers. Shot lots of deer well under 25yds. I'm sure a lot of people have shot a lot more deer a lot closer than I have.

I know I've never singed one w/powder like the ML cow elk mentioned earlier.

I can walk on water.......................but I do stagger a bit on alcohol.