I will add one for those that are interested..The most overlooked bullet in the 7x57 for deer is the 130 gr. Speer, either the flat base or the boattail..It is the best deer bullet that I have used in the 7x57, it leaves a 50 cent size exit hole in everyone of them....I have used most of the bullets out there in the 7x57 I like the 130 speer for deer size game and the 160 gr. premium bullet for elk size game..I like the 175 gr. Nosler for the tough stuff or for shooting in thick stuff..