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These are the 2004 tests, Scott. No reason for you to be a smart azz as I was only trying to help. I should have known better.
Swedish magazine Vapentidningen no 6 / 2004 has printed a consumer lab testing for Copes rifles suitable for hunting at dusk / dawn. Their conclusion is that the German/Austrian scopes are by far the best, but the leap from the cheaper US scopes are smaller today than it was at the last test 7 years ago. Their conclusion is that the Germanwings / Austrian scopes are by far the best, but the leap from the cheaper U.S. scopes are smaller today than it was at the last test 7 years ago. Aerotech Telub lab did the scientific testing using spektrofotometers, broad spectral lamps and kolliminators. Aerotech Telub lab did the testing using scientific Spektrofotometer, broad spectral lamps and kolliminators. The scopes were tested for field of sight, eye relief, "tube effect", ergonomy, click adjustment accuracy, impact change with change of magnification, sharpness and contrast, light transmission, reflexes, twilight performance. The scopes were tested for field of sight, eye relief, "tube effect", ergonomy, click adjustment accuracy, impact change with change of magnification, sharpness and contrast, light transmission, reflexes, twilight performance. Here's a bit more on the test. Here's a bit more on the test. unfortunately the scope selection was somewhat limited. Unfortunately the selection was somewhat limited scope. And please not that the test was geared towards scopes for post hunting in dark autumn evenings. And please not that the test was geared towards post scopes for hunting in the dark autumn evenings. The test and description of the test criterias runs over 10 typed pages, so there's a bit too much work to translate all of that and post them on this forum However, I will post the scoring scales. The test and description of the criteria's test runs over 10 typed pages, so there's a bit too much work to translate all of that and post them on this forum However, I will post the scoring scales.
Field of view at 100m Field of view at 100m 0-5m 0 points 0-5m 0 points 5-6m 1 point 5-6m 1 point 6-7m 2 points 6-7m 2 points 7m+ 3 points 7m + 3 points Eye relief Eye relief 0-6cm 0 points 0-6cm 0 points 6-8cm 1 point 6-8cm 1 point 8-10 2 points 8-10 2 points 10+ 3 points 10 + 3 points Tube effect Tube effect Sight picture severly disturbed by tube effect at all magnifications: 0 points Sight picture tube severly disturbed by impact at all magnification: 0 points Sight picture severly disturbed at lowest magnification, disturbed at highest: 1 point Sight picture severly disturbed at lowest magnification, disturbed at highest: 1 point Sight picture distusturbed at all magnifications: 2 points Sight picture distusturbed at all magnification: 2 points Sight picture disturbed only at lowest magnification: 3 points Sight picture disturbed only at lowest magnification: 3 points Sight picture not disturbed: 4 points Sight picture not disturbed: 4 points Ergonomy Ergonomy Magnification ring turns smooth and even: 1 point Magnification ring turns smooth and even: 1 point Possible to read magnification marking in the dark: 1 point Possible to read in the dark marking magnification: 1 point Quick and smooth focusing: 1 point Quick and smooth focusing: 1 point Possible to click scope without tools: 1 point Possible scope to click without tools: 1 point Click adjustment easy to feel: 1 point Click adjustment easy to feel: 1 point Good markings on all adjustments: 1 point Good markings on all adjustments: 1 point Indication of scope center: 1 point Indication of scope center: 1 point Sight adjustment Sight adjustment Click adjustment deviation in percent Click adjustment in percentage deviation 100-50% 0 points 100-50% 0 points 50-20% 1 point 50-20% 1 point 20-5% 2 points 20.5% 2 points 5-1% 3 points 5.1% 3 points 0% 4 points 0% 4 points Adjustment range at 100m Adjustment range at 100m 0-50cm 0 points 0-50cm 0 points 50-100cm 1 point 50-100cm 1 point 100-200cm 2 points 100-200cm 2 points 200-300cm 3 points 200-300cm 3 points 300cm+ 4 points 300cm + 4 points Change of impact with magnification at 100m Change or impact with magnification at 100m 5cm+ 0 points 5cm + 0 points 5-1cm 1 point 5-1cm 1 point 1cm- 2points 1cm-2points Nil 3points Nil 3points Resolution and contrast Resolution and contrast Field testing, can/cannot see various targets, details and colours under equal conditions and settings Field testing, can / can not see various targets, details and colors under equal conditions and settings Resolution 0-10 points Resolution 0-10 points Contrast 0-10 points Contrast 0-10 points Anti reflex Anti reflex Under equal conditions and settings with light source facing the objective Under equal conditions and settings with light source facing the objective Lenses Lenses Not able to see through scope: 0 points Not Able to see through scope: 0 points Sight picture is white, difficult to aim: 1 point Sight picture is white, difficult to aim: 1 point Sight picture is white, but aiming possible: 2 points Sight picture is white, but aiming possible: 2 points Sight picture a little white: 3 points Sight picture a little white: 3 points Sight picture good, but without contrast or colour: 4 points Good sight picture, but without contrast or color: 4 points Sight picture not affected: 5 points Sight picture not affected: 5 points Reticule Reticule Not able to use the reticule: 0 points Not Able to Obtain reticule: 0 points Severe shadows and reflexes on it: 1 point Severe shadows and reflexes on it: 1 point Shadows and reflexes on it: 2 points Shadows and reflexes on it: 2 points A little shiny: 3 points A little shiny: 3 points Sharp but mis-coloured: 4 points Sharp but mis-colored: 4 points Sharp and black: 5 points Sharp and black: 5 points Light transmission at 500-550 nm (twilight light) Light transmission at 500-550 nm (light twilight) Please note that scopes can transmit other wavelengt light better Please note that other scopes can transmit light better wavelengt
0-10% 0 points 0-10% 0 points 10-30% 1 point 10-30% 1 point 30-40% 2 points 30-40% 2 points 40-50% 3 points 40-50% 3 points 50-60% 4 points 50-60% 4 points 60-70% 5 points 60-70% 5 points 70-80% 6 points 70-80% 6 points 80-85% 7 points 80-85% 7 points 85-90% 8 points 85-90% 8 points 90-95% 9 points 90-95% 9 points 95-100% 10 points 95-100% 10 points
Twilight performance Twilight performance Light were progressively reduced and scopes where excluded when it was no longer possible to determine target/crosshairs. Light scopes were progressively reduced and where excluded when it was no longer possible to determining target / crosshairs. Lighted reticules were not used. Lighted reticules were not used. Scopes where used at all magnifications. Scopes where used at all magnification. Scopes where scored 0 to 10 points according to how little light it was possible to use it in. Scopes where scored 0 to 10 points according to how little light it was possible to use it in.
Scopes tested: Scopes tested: BSA big cat 3,5-10x42 BSA 3.5-10x42 big cat Burris fullfield II 3,5-10x50 Burris Full field II 3.5-10x50 Bushnell elite 4200 2,5-10x40 Bushnell Elite 4200 2.5-10x40 Docter 3-12x56 Docter 3-12x56 Kahles cb 3-12x56 Kahless cb 3-12x56 Leupold XIII 3.5-10x50 Leupold 3.5-10x50 XIII Meopta artemis 2000 3-12x50 Meopta Artemis 2000 3-12x50 Meopta artemis 3000 3-12x56 Meopta Artemis 3000 3-12x56 Micro Dot 2.5-10x56 Micro Dot 2.5-10x56 Nickel gerhardt 3-12x56 Gerhardt Nickel 3-12x56 Nightforce np1 3.5-15x56 NP1 Night Force 3.5-15x56 OXO ontario 3-9x56 OXO 3-9x56 ontario Pecar 4-10x56 Pecar 4-10x56 S&B Zenith 2.5-10x56 S & B Zenith 2.5-10x56 S&B 2.5-10x56 B & S 2.5-10x56 Shirstone Gold 4-12x58 Shirstone Gold 4-12x58 Shirstone Gold 3-10x56 Shirstone Gold 3-10x56 Swarovski Habict 2.5-10x56 Habict Swarovski 2.5-10x56 Tasco Titan 3-12x52 Tasco Titan 3-12x52 Trijicon accupoint 2.5-10x56 Trijicon Battery Point 2.5-10x56 Zeiss diavari z 3-12x56 Z diavari Zeiss 3-12x56 Zeiss varipoint v 3-12x56 V 3-point range Zeiss 12x56 Zeiss diavari v 3-12x56 V 3-12x56 Zeiss diavari
A short summary of the results below. A short summary of the results below. Scope name Scope name B resolution (max 10) B resolution (max 10) C colour & contrast (max 10) C & color contrast (max 10) D anti-reflex (max 5+5) D anti-reflex (5 max 5) E light transmission (max 10) E light transmission (max 10) F twilight performance (max 10) F twilight performance (max 10) G overall test result (including all test results, not just the ones I've printed. Max possible 7Cool G overall test result (including all test results, not just the ones I've printed. 7Cool Max possible
Remember, this is a lab test, not some testers subjective opinion. Remember, this is a lab test, not some testers subjective opinion.
BSA Big cat 3,5-10x: B3 C3 D5 E6 F3 G44 BSA Big Cat 3.5-10X: B3 C3 D5 E6 F3 G44 BURRIS FULLFIELD II 3,5-10X: B10 C7 D6 E9 F7 G58 Burris 3.5-10X FULL FIELD II: B10 C7 D6 E9 F7 G58 DOCTER 3-12X: B7 C8 D8 E8 F7 G60 DOCTER 3-12X: B7 C8 D8 E8 F7 G60 KAHLES CB 3-12: B6 C8 D8 E9 F8 G62 Kahless CB 3-12: B6 C8 D8 E9 F8 G62 LEUPOLD VXIII 3,5-10X:B7 C7 D8 E8 F6 G60 VXIII LEUPOLD 3.5-10X: B7 C7 D8 E8 F6 G60 MEOPTA ARTEMIS 3000 3-12X: B7 C7 D7 E7 F7 G57 Meopta ARTEMIS 3000 3-12X: B7 C7 D7 E7 F7 G57 MEOPTA ARTEMIS 2000 3-12X: B6 C7 D7 E7 F6 G55 Meopta ARTEMIS 2000 3-12X: B6 C7 D7 E7 F6 G55 MICRO DOT 2,3-10X: B7 C6 D7 E8 F7 G58 MICRO DOT 2.3-10X: B7 C6 D7 E8 F7 G58 NICKEL GERHARDT 3-12X: B9 C8 D8 E9 F9 G66 NICKEL GERHARDT 3-12X: B9 C8 D8 E9 F9 G66 NIGHTFORCE NP1 3,5-15X: B9 C6 D9 E8 F7 G60 NP1 NIGHT FORCE 3.5-15X: B9 C6 D9 E8 F7 G60 OXO ONTARIO 3-9X: B3 C3 D4 E6 F2 G39 ONTARIO OXO 3-9X: B3 C3 D4 E6 F2 G39 PECAR 4-10X: B5 C6 D6 E8 F5 G46 Pecar 4-10X: B5 C6 D6 E8 F5 G46 SCHMIDT UND BENDER ZENITH 2,5-10X: B7 C8 D9 E9 F9 G65 SCHMIDT UND BENDER ZENITH 2.5-10X: B7 C8 D9 E9 F9 G65 SCHMIDT UND BENDER 2,5-10X: B9 C8 D8 E9 F9 G66 SCHMIDT UND BENDER 2.5-10X: B9 C8 D8 E9 F9 G66 SHIRSTONE GOLD 4-12X: B5 C5 D5 E7 F5 G47 SHIRSTONE GOLD 4-12X: B5 C5 D5 E7 F5 G47 SWAROVSKI HABICT 3-12X: B9 C9 D8 E9 F10 G68 SWAROVSKI HABICT 3-12X: B9 C9 D8 E9 F10 G68 TASCO TITAN 3-12X: B5 C6 D6 E7 F4 G49 Tasco Titan 3-12X: B5 C6 D6 E7 F4 G49 TRIJICON ACCUPOINT 2,5-10X: B8 C6 D8 E9 F8 G64 TRIJICON BATTERY POINT 2.5-10X: B8 C6 D8 E9 F8 G64 ZEISS DIAVARI ZT 3-12X: B10 C10 D10 E9 F10 G72 ZEISS DIAVARI ZT 3-12X: B10 C10 D10 E9 F10 G72 ZEISS VARIPOINT V 3-12X: B9 C10 D10 E9 F9 G70 ZEISS VARI POINT V 3-12X: B9 C10 D10 E9 F9 G70 ZEISS DIAVARI V 3-12X: B10 C10 D10 E9 F10 G73 ZEISS DIAVARI V 3-12X: B10 C10 D10 E9 F10 G73
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