what is an eye opener, is you guys are getting the near the speeds from 250s that i can wring from 200s in my .350 RM. i also agree that 2800 from 250s would seem to be the upper limit (QL sez 71.5 gr RE15 should give 2801 fps from 23" barrel). that's a significant step up.

i gotta get one made...

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