Ray - I would much rather shoot my .458 Win, with laminated stock and one inch recoil pad then an older .45/70 M1886 or M1873 Trapdoor with those crescent shaped steel butt plates. Old timers had to have loved the pain... To me the difference in your "one inch running start" is rubber vs. steel. Otherwise I'm in agreement with you. Regards, Homesteader.