I said it was easy to measure groups, and or get a good idea as I like you don't get out a caliper and measure them either...grin

I know a lot of guyz at the range hit the steel and get to thinking they're Johhny Leather legs, problemo is the steel at our range are darn big hunks of steel.

(Hows that for I's)

Dober

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