I like these rifles, I'd say they are dandy's but I hate the thick beefy B&C stock.. If I bought one I'd have to spend another good chunk of money just to get a stock I could live with, then I'd have $1400.00 in a $950.00 rifle.....I don't like being upside down in a rifle so until they change the stock these rifles won't be a consideration for me.............Hb
