That does not sound like an unfair wage, but how much of that is Union dues, what are the health insurance and other benefit costs that go into it. Assuming our costs of close to $12,000 per FTE, we are looking at an additioanl $6 per hour in employee costs. And at what price point would Hostess have to price their food to realize a profit. They may be overly leveraged, but this is not a strong market for manufacturing location sales.