My .300 win mag #1 is a Liberty model, and has a very long throat - which is perfectly fine with me. A 180 Nosler BT seated to the lands has the OAL about 3.62"+.

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With Rel 22 I've seen some eye-popping velocities out of it, but now I try to run 180's around 3100 fps. It is quite accurate.

I'd like to try the 7 STW sometime, maybe swap an extra stock set onto the stainless action. I wonder if we might see a .300 Ultra sometime in a limited edition smile

But the next time I run across a black pad .270 Roy, with good wood, I'll make it mine smile

"...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."