I see the light! Thanks for sharing your research with us. And just in time before I have my mountan rifle twisted up. Since I am locked into building on a long action, I was thinking of going with a 25-06. I was concerned about bobing the barrel back on that caliber, not wanting to give up too much of it's speed. Now I will rest easy and have the barrel cut to a length that offers good ballance. Thanks again Charlie.