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Why are you picking on me?

That whole incident was 97% the cop's fault. Just because you wear a badge it doesn't give you license to act like a COCK.

A good officer uses finesse as much as possible.

after watching the video that'd pretty much be my take on it as well.


I would think it's in the officers right to request to extinguish smoking materials. Second hand smoke, yada, yada drifting right up in his face. And yes I'm a smoker, I'd probably extinguish it before the officer approached but certainly would if asked to do so.

but when she gave him lip about it, he kinda lost it. With only a year on the job it's understandable to me, I don't know this, but from my interaction with LEO it seems training dictates they take control of interaction with civilians.

And often times there's probably good reason for such, if you don't allow a situation to escalate it's better for everyone involved.

I thought he did great until the deal over the cig. At that point (hindsite being 20/20) he probably should have showed her the warning, tore it up, then wrote her the citation and gone on with his life.

still think she should have seen Chris Rock's video though

Fox just reported she had attempted suicide once before....

I don't talk to people who are smoking. It gives me a headache. I politely ask them to put it out because it gives me a headache. If they don't, I just leave. They can call back when they're done smoking and wait for me to return.

If it's on a traffic stop, same / same. They can sign the ticket or put out the cigarette. But I won't answer your questions and listen to your gripes while you smoke.

Same with a filthy house. I told a lady, "I'm sorry, but we'll have to talk outside. Your house smells awful."

And dirty people. "Pardon me if I don't shake. But no thank you."

It's not complicated. I'm utterly professional with everyone. But I won't give myself a headache, or gag and have my uniform smell bad, or touch your hands you haven't washed in a week. If that's a deal breaker, you can wait for another cop to show up.

Wonder what white cop interaction triggered that one?

Kent Greenfield explains it all for you.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Myth-Choice-Personal-Responsibility/dp/0300169868

About the author (of the OP):

Ajamu Baraka is a veteran activist, organizer, and an editor and columnist for Black Agenda Report.

There was another recent incident where a dash cam video showed a male LEO repeatedly hitting a black girl in the face with his fist. When the full story came out, a black female officer tried to break up a fight, the girl had her by the neck and was choking her, the male officer tried to pull her hands off his partner's neck, and when he couldn't get her to let go, he pummeled her to save his partner.

Chris Rock probably wasn't the only black who knew better than to fight the police, but now doing so makes them a hero.

Notice in the video from the jail it was a black female officer who found Sandra Bland unconscious in the cell.

This thread don't meet my criteria for posting.

It doesn't matter, it's as good as murder at this point.
"Cigarette out, don't shoot"

That's absolutely respectable. ADA's don't get ticketed very frequently anyway.

So arresting someone is now likened to shooting them?

And the trooper gets the blame because he arrested her? Even though she was turned over to the county jail where she evidently killed herself?

Bullschit?


A standard formula I used for years doing criminal interdiction is this:

A high volume of legal traffic stops. Turn signal violations, equipment violations, speed violations, etc.

Stop and talk to the person. Advise why they were stopped.

If they are members of the innocent motoring public, get them back on the road as fast as possible w/o any tickets, written warnings, nothing. That takes too much time that you could be spending on a high probability stop.

Continue to make legal traffic stops until you find the one that has indicators of possible trafficking or other criminal activity. Then take your time interviewing, then conducting the investigation/drug seizure.

A high volume of legal traffic stops. In fact I had to compile my stats for a class one time, and I discovered I wrote citations approximately 2% of my stops, with 98% verbal warnings.

This high volume of legal stops that you call "bullschit" resulted in over 3 MILLION dollars worth of narcotics seizures in roughly 5 years time.

"BS" traffic stops net a whole hell of a lot of narcotics/stolen weapons/stolen property/felony warrants/ etc, etc and serious criminal activity intercepted. BS traffic stops have resulted in a lot of very bad people getting caught.

Charleston Church shooting suspect and murderer of 9 innocent people Dylann Roof was caught due to a "BS" traffic stop.

Oklahoma bomber Timothy McVeigh (killed 168 people and injured more than 500) was caught due to a "BS" random traffic stop.

Three members of the Syrian Social Nationalist Party (Walid Nicolas Kabbani, Georges Fouad Nicolas Younan, and Walid Majib Mourad) were stopped in Vermont on a "BS" traffic stop.

They were smuggling a bomb from Canada to the United States.

Peter William Sutcliffe, a serial killer was caught on a "BS" random traffic stop . Sutcliffe was convicted of murdering 13 women and attempting to murder seven others.

I could go on and on with examples...

What some call BS stops others call proactive police work.

I'm thinking he's means it doesn't matter to the libs. She was a radical liberal from the NE that died in Texas after being arrested. That's all they need for a scumfest. It's just a shame that a prestigious institution of higher learning like Prairie View A&M has to start the process of replacing her.

Why did the cop return to the drivers side after taking several minutes to check her out? Why not the passenger side again? Maybe he had it in his mind to drag her out?

What information was he given about her during his check?

When I started with the Highway Patrol, my Sergeant gave me a piece of advice that has stood me in good stead these many years. He said "When you make a traffic stop, you have two options. You can either write 'em up or you can give 'em a lecture. BUT, don't ever do both! Wise man.


Jim

Don't put too much into this. The minute we have to threaten any kind of force to get somebody to comply, they are going to jail. How fast and hard depends on them.

I think he is comparing the "she was murdered" narrative that the family is pushing to the lie that Michael Brown had his hands up when he was shot.

Even after it was proven to be a lie, the race baiters are still using the hands up don't shoot BS.

If she had tried suicide before I bet the family knew about it. The family is on record as saying she wouldn't do that and had no history of such.
They have their agenda version to push and they're sticking to it.

Yeah, I see that now.

With some of the posts in this thread, things can be confused with what people seriously post.

BTW, Texas DPS doesn't have a "quota" for tickets. But they DO want to know you are out there working traffic. They don't tell you who or what to write. That is officer discretion. So is the warning tickets. They get the same credit for a warning ticket as they do a full citation.