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The GS were infiltrated with lesbians years ago. I remember reading about their 'sex education' classes where the girls were taught stuff that even the public schools wouldn't allow.

To no one in particular:


Ask anyone that works with or around abused children, NONE of them will allow their kids in a situation where they are 'supervised ' by other adults. This particularly applies to organized team sports, and church groups.

Seems there have been a BUNCH of homo pedophiles, ask the Catholic church and Penn State.

Mainstream Christianity can be affected negatively with this decay as well. The government can conceivably deny "non-profit" status for any Church or Churches that may not allow same sex marriages in their churches...

I was involved in 4H for a couple of years both in a rick climbing and rescue club and in shooting sports. I had kids in my clubs that I never once saw their parents. It was almost imposable to get any parental help. I was mostly just a babysitter to them.

I was not a good fit in the scout troop I tried as a kid, I was more of a loner. But I have seen what scouting can do for some kids. I hope it is not OUT.

Question is; can your church afford all the lawsuits headed their way if their troop will not accept gays?

I don't mean to paint B.S.A. and G.S.A. with a broad brush of condemnation. However, my experience with scouts was somewhat jaded. In Cub Scouts, I got on the wrong end of a fixed Pinewood Derby. I was going to join Boy Scouts, but the guys who I'd have been going in with wanted to do nothing but look at Playboy magazines on the campouts. I tried to get my sons interested, but they turned up their noses. Their read on who was involved was negative.

As a result, I took it upon myself to teach them what I could about camping, hiking, survival, etc. They've turned out all right. I don't regret not forcing them into scouting. My #2 son is already instituting my "Emergency Camping Trip" ritual in his family. That was a thing I used to do back when he was a sprout. At 10 AM on a Saturday morning I'd declare an Emergency Camping Trip, and everyone had to be in the car in an hour. We'd then head to a state park and camp overnight. It was a fun, exciting way to teach preparedness.

Over the past 40-some years, what I've seen is that good families produce good scouts. Families that seem to produce mall rats and soccer orphans don't. I've also seen that the same goofy politics that infest churches tend to bleed into their scout troups. It boils down to too many people using church and scouts as a career replacement.

As I said, I don't want to condemn scouting and I don't want to condemn scouts. I'm just saying I did not have the best of experiences with them. My advise has been to do as much as you can as an extended family first. That is what has worked with me and mine.

it's probably a lot more prevalent than proponents of homos want you to think. It does happen, and it will happen more that the availability of access opens the doors for exploitation.
I have no problem with looking at this from a very strict standpoint, and no problem with painting with a broad brush.

Over here, over the last 10 or 15 years, the whole issue of child abuse seems to have exploded.

It seems that its occurred within families, within local Government entities like schools and care homes, plus volunteer organisations like Scout Groups and Churches ect.

One common theme is that paedo's actively try to infiltrate positions to gain access to children and to focus on one aspect of this (homosexuals) detracts from the wider danger that children face.

To avoid placing children in danger, the advice given earlier about parental participation is about the best..My other thought is that a conviction for paedophilia should result in capital punishment unless there were exceptional circumstances..

Parents

Amen. I'm a Committee Member and just finished the rest of my required training to become an Assistant Scout Master with my older son's troop and am a Den Leader of my younger son's Cub Scout pack. When my oldest daughter was in Girl Scouts, my wife attended every meeting with her and I went on the campouts. We know our kids are not being exposed to any nonsense because we are there with them and involved. That's the key - parent involvement.

No one is less thrilled than I am about BSA's decision, but the real rubber meets the road at the local troop level. Instead of pulling your boys out of scouting, get involved and make sure it's done right in YOUR troop.[/quote]

^^^^This guy got it right. I am an Eagle Scout from 1985 and long time Girl Scout Leader. Yep, GIRL SCOUT leader. Get involved and run the troop, your troop, like it needs to be run. It works and adults and youth will appreciate it. Even dads can be girl scout leaders. Our troop camps, hikes, does archery, etc.............. and sells cookies. Get involved. I do stick out at Girl Scout leader training events and the reception is not always warm. I do not care, I am there for the scouts, not the council.

While I agree with you I think we are beating a dead horse most of the time. Today way to many parents just want someone else to do their kid raising work. My hats off to those who get and stay involved.

Oh, it'll have positive impact alright.

In that it'll avoid the negative impact of sensational media blitz and attacks from irs and other federal public service agencies.

Huskers played them the next week.
Im the one who suggested coach tel the kids when huddled to call the play they all hold one hand over their bung hole.

I wasn't trying to be funny.

Now i gotta ask BSA how the hell is a kid supposed to strike flint over tinder one handed?

Guys...since when did all gay men turn into pedophiles?

Are we up in arms, trying to ban straight men from being GSA leaders, simply because they are sexually attracted to females, so they must want to do something wrong?

Now, as I have said before, my biggest concern with this is that the BSA is caving to the political pressure, and it makes me sick.

I am an Eagle Scout, and I truly hope that Scouts is around for my kids when I have them. But, you better believe that I will be an active participant of the troop, and I will be at the camp-outs and meetings.

Kid's growing up today have WAY too much organization in their lives. They spend entirely too much time with persons their own age and gender.

It's a result of changing from a rural society to an urban one. We had to "organize" our own activities, and had to include ALL the kids in walking or bike riding distance. This meant older and younger, boys and girls [sometimes].

At school we were trapped with a completely different bunch... all our own age.

At "home" the younger could learn from the older. Fathers were too busy trying to make a living, and mothers had a REAL full time job just keeping the household together.

The biggest damage the homo agenda has done to our society is that it has put a wall between kids and old guys that are not related to them.

No adult male nowadays is going to be caught around young kids that could learn much from him.

And that's sad.

I say good riddance to the BSA. Something will fill any vacuum left by their passing.

Not all strait men are perverts.
I hope that's simple enough answer.

"Indian Princess" is an organization that comes to mind. Have your son register as "Caitlyn".


DMc

Leviticus 20:13

I stand in defiance of that.

I got stacks of bows and arrows.
Piles of frisbees.
Baseball gear enough for 3 teams.
5 gallon buckets full of golf balls.
etc.
Plus telescope and charts and schedules for kids to learn from.

Always a whole flock around here.

How many 4 yos you know know the definition of concentric circles or know where jupiter is in the night sky?

How many second year t ball players turn 8 double plays in a season and play part in 2 triple plays?

How many 2 to 3 yos you know that bait their own hook and cast their own pole?
Let alone coach kids half again their age on good archery form?

Besides my two, I am surrounded.
And I am trusted because I'm not a pervert.

No.
Yes.
I stand in defiance to that statement.