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Not a real member - just an ordinary guy who appreciates being able to hang around and say something once in awhile.
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Sounds like he ran into a momma and cub. I worked in Glacier for one summer and Teton for two summers. When you spend your entire summer there, you are going to have grizzly interactions if you hike a lot. Iy happened to me in Glacier, Yellowstone and Teton, as well as in the Absarokas. One of my co-workers in Glacier, Gary Goeden was killed by a momma grizz when he was hiking near Many Glacier. He was an experienced hiker, but he bumped into a mama griz off-trail. Unless the bear spray is in your hand ready to go, you are toast.
I hear a lot of people talking about carrying when in Yellowstone as protection from bears. The reality is if you killa charging bear in Yellowstone and you don't already have a big chunk out of your butt, be prepared get prosecuted and lose all your guns forever.
Best you can do is hike with your head on a swivel - make noise and don't hike alone.
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I believe we need to ban movie theaters before we get to bears.
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My first question is, did he have/deploy bear spray, a gun, both, neither, or......? My second question is, did the bear see him first?
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Sounds like he ran into a momma and cub... Unless the bear spray is in your hand ready to go, you are toast.
I hear a lot of people talking about carrying when in Yellowstone as protection from bears. The reality is if you killa charging bear in Yellowstone and you don't already have a big chunk out of your butt, be prepared get prosecuted and lose all your guns forever.
Best you can do is hike with your head on a swivel - make noise and don't hike alone. True dat. I'm convinced the main reason I didn't get killed by that mama grizzly when I was 15 is that there were 5 of us fairly close together. She bluff-charged, but if there'd only been one or two, I fear it may not have been a bluff. Mamas with cubs can be hard to reason with.
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I spent 64 days in the park from April 1 to August 1, will probably go back October until we get snowed out..
I feared the asian drivers, buffalo, moose, then griz, in that order.
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My first question is, did he have/deploy bear spray, a gun, both, neither, or......? My second question is, did the bear see him first? Of course it did. It heard and smelt him too.
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I hear a lot of people talking about carrying when in Yellowstone as protection from bears. The reality is if you killa charging bear in Yellowstone and you don't already have a big chunk out of your butt, be prepared get prosecuted and lose all your guns forever.
Probably so, but I think I'd still rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
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I hear a lot of people talking about carrying when in Yellowstone as protection from bears. The reality is if you killa charging bear in Yellowstone and you don't already have a big chunk out of your butt, be prepared get prosecuted and lose all your guns forever.
Best you can do is hike with your head on a swivel - make noise and don't hike alone. It's better to survive a bear attack and fight the politicians afterwards, an unarmed fight with a grizzly is a one-sided proposition.
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Going Mano el Mano with a Grizz with a "hiking" knife doesn't appeal very much to me. The few times I've been in YellowStone, I was packing a Glock 20 in 10mm. I figure that beats the heck out of a sharp stick, any ole day of the week. YMMV
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
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Best you can do is hike with your head on a swivel - make noise and don't hike alone.
What's better? Ensure you smear bacon grease on the shoes of your 'friend' and that it's a person you can outrun...
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Bears and people in the same spaces. Once in a while things are gonna happen, no way around it, maybe sometimes even to the best prepared and aware.
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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I thought we could carry in national parks these days?
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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I thought we could carry in national parks these days? You can.
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Probably so, but I think I'd still rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. Or eaten by a bear.
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You can carry in a national park if your permit is recognized by the State that contains the park.
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Don't wish it were easier Wish you were better
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I thought so, so then you would or should not get charged if you have to kill a bear in self defense.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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I wonder, if it had been a black bear, would the news article have just reported it as a bear attack?
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We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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