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Lohman's is NOTORIOUS for saying they have stuff in stock, then back order. When I get to the pay section, you get a notice saying IF we have it, we'll send it otherwise we'll send you an email when it comes in. Thanks anyway!
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As of 8/12, these guys had 296 10Ring.com www.10ring.com281-894-7464 local shop that sells a lot of reloading supplies and if they say they have it, they do. I have a fair amount of Lil'Gun and 296 on hand, but I am interested in trying Accurate #9 in some of the magnum loads.
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Never have been a big fan of Blue Dot. Bought an 8# can about 25 years ago and still trying to use it up. Just recently did load up a bunch of lighter weight cast boolits up just to get rid of the powder until Unique and H110/296 get back in stock. From what I have read it is reverse temperature sensitive...the colder it get the higher the pressure gets. It used to be THE powder for .38 Super which is what I bought it for. But I got much better velocities out of SR4756 and Unique than BD. Easy recipe for H110/296 regardless of bullet...fill case till the powder touches the bottom of the bullet just to hold the powder in place. Use a Winchester LP or any Magnum LP primer and shoot. Gets the highest safe velocity and best SD of all loads. I would also like to get hold of some Ramshot Enforcer as it looks pretty good also. Started this over on the CastBoolit Forums and it is now a sticky... http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?276144-41-magnum-special-data-centerI don't usually max out my S&W guns...they will take the heat when using H110/296 but if you push any of the faster powders hard you get case sticking and or bulging long before a Ruger. I can use the same H110/296 loads in the Smiths as the Rugers...it seems to have a much longer pressure curve...and bright muzzle flash... And I also have had the same problem with not enough front sight blade when using bullets over 230 grains in a Smith. 200-230 is the weight bullets I usually use in the Smiths.. Bob This^^^^^^ should be a sticky here as it is SPOT ON!
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' until Unique and H110/296 get back in stock.'
So how about Unique then? I have some of that/
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Can you recommend a starting load? I can't find anything got that heavy of a bullet weight/
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Let me do some research since I have never used unique in the 41 mag.
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Jorge,
My gut says 7.0 grains and working up SLOWLY in about .2 grain increments, but let me see what I can find.
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I thought 7 would work as well, but the 265 takes up a lot of case capacity and a fast powder like unique can get to high pressure very quickly.
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Jorge, No Unique here, but this should give you some starting loads for other powders and if you're good with a loading manual, you should be able to get an idea on a starting load for Unique as comparative. http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistol
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I thought 7 would work as well, but the 265 takes up a lot of case capacity and a fast powder like unique can get to high pressure very quickly.
Yep, thus the gut. The 210s are showing starting loads around 9.5 grains. Closest I can get is the Lyman 3rd Edition Cast Bullet Handbook with a #410426 240 grain .410" RN Linotype. Starting load with Unique is 6.9 grains for 879 fps and 18,200 CUP. Max load on that one is 10.0 grains at 1147 fps and 36,900 CUP. Jorge, try starting at 6.5 grains being VERY careful and work up SLOW. Anywhere near 9.0 grains should be considered top end and I doubt I'd want to go much beyond that or 1100 fps, whichever comes first.
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Thanks very much to both you guys. I'm going to start with what I have here once the bullets arrive and let you guy know. I will experiment with all the powders mentioned. From what I read here, these two seem the most promising w the powders I have:
2400...17.0
HS-6....10.0
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I'd not discount Lil'Gun or H110, either.
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H-110 is apparently the choice of most here, but everyone appears to be out.
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After doing some research and talking with a very knowledgable individual. I believe you should start at 6 grains of unique and work up to 100 fps and call it good.
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I really like 2400 for loads like this one, and second the motion of 17 grains of it. It has a smooth pressure curve, lights easily (no need for magnum primers), should be close to ideal. I have obtained my best accuracy in .357, .41 and .44 Magnums with stout loads of 2400, and I've been using it in these calibers for over 30 years.
It does not like to be downloaded, however, so avoid reduced loads of it.
Unique is pretty fast for such a heavy bullet, but with care I'm sure it can be loaded safely.
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A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Please expand on that if you would. Hamilton Bowen recommended LG as the powder to use in my 45 LC. Or, is your comment just in regard to the 41?
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