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You people need to spend more energy worrying about Hillary than dogging Bush/Trump/Cruz et. al. ANY of that group keeps America from going full Socialist, while a Klinton victory will kill Conservatism for the next 40 years. IF the GOP gets broken up, as many here suggest should happen, then what are you going to do with the Dems controlling the House, Senate, and the WH?
- Guns are gone
- Socialized medicine will be 100% reality, and 100% tragedy
- Our military will be a shell of its former self with no mission capability and useful for ceremony only, much like Europe
- The economy will stagnate as businesses get saddled with regulations that force higher wages and benefits as the Dem government tries to force the private sector to take some of the welfare burden.
- Unemployment will shoot up to about 10% and stay 8-10% indefinitely much like France
- Illegal immigration will flood in, causing much of that unemployment problem and swamp our social services that are cracking now.
- Amnesty will happen, and then free college for their kids but not yours.
I could go on and on. All this leaves me wondering if some of you realize who the enemy is? Whomever may become the GOP candidate needs to be the one that can beat Hillary. Sanders or Biden are easily beatable.
Arguing about W. is about like bitching about LBJ. Both have come and gone. Obama was able to screw us but good when he had enough friends in Congress, then stared using Executive Orders to do his dirty work. His Supreme Court nominations burdened us with a couple of real libs that are anti gun and likely anti American.
Save some of your fight to defeat Hillary.
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." Han Solo
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Spot on, but you are pissing up a rope...
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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You "granny panty" sniffers are so predictable. As are those who start out their posts with rediculous and reprehensible invectives such as this. But when it's all ya go, it's all ya got. Carry on.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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Campfire Kahuna
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You people need to spend more energy worrying about Hillary than dogging Bush/Trump/Cruz et. al. ANY of that group keeps America from going full Socialist, while a Klinton victory will kill Conservatism for the next 40 years. IF the GOP gets broken up, as many here suggest should happen, then what are you going to do with the Dems controlling the House, Senate, and the WH?
- Guns are gone
- Socialized medicine will be 100% reality, and 100% tragedy
- Our military will be a shell of its former self with no mission capability and useful for ceremony only, much like Europe
- The economy will stagnate as businesses get saddled with regulations that force higher wages and benefits as the Dem government tries to force the private sector to take some of the welfare burden.
- Unemployment will shoot up to about 10% and stay 8-10% indefinitely much like France
- Illegal immigration will flood in, causing much of that unemployment problem and swamp our social services that are cracking now.
- Amnesty will happen, and then free college for their kids but not yours.
I could go on and on. All this leaves me wondering if some of you realize who the enemy is? Whomever may become the GOP candidate needs to be the one that can beat Hillary. Sanders or Biden are easily beatable.
Arguing about W. is about like bitching about LBJ. Both have come and gone. Obama was able to screw us but good when he had enough friends in Congress, then stared using Executive Orders to do his dirty work. His Supreme Court nominations burdened us with a couple of real libs that are anti gun and likely anti American.
Save some of your fight to defeat Hillary. That's the problem. A "moderate" won't win. We've seen it time and again. There is a difference between "dogging" a candidate and knowing that he (Bush) is our worst chance for victory. Trump, Carson and Cruz have a lot of money, and contrary to what people believe, Trump is getting a lot of contributions that are supporting the majority of his campaign. The vast majority of Carson and Cruz's donations are in amounts less than $200. Small contributions amount to votes. All of Bush's money is coming from a few Wall Street elites. If we let the establishment buy our candidate we are screwed.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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I just saw a graphic on the TV screen: WSJ/NBC Poll has Cruz in 4th place at 9 % ...... one point ahead of Bush.
That ain't a bad spot to be in at this stage.
Add to THAT the fact that GWB thinks Cruz is the biggest threat to Jeb, and I'm still OK with Cruz's chances.
Never holler whoa or look back in a tight place
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You people need to spend more energy worrying about Hillary than dogging Bush/Trump/Cruz et. al. ANY of that group keeps America from going full Socialist, while a Klinton victory will kill Conservatism for the next 40 years. IF the GOP gets broken up, as many here suggest should happen, then what are you going to do with the Dems controlling the House, Senate, and the WH?
- Guns are gone
- Socialized medicine will be 100% reality, and 100% tragedy
- Our military will be a shell of its former self with no mission capability and useful for ceremony only, much like Europe
- The economy will stagnate as businesses get saddled with regulations that force higher wages and benefits as the Dem government tries to force the private sector to take some of the welfare burden.
- Unemployment will shoot up to about 10% and stay 8-10% indefinitely much like France
- Illegal immigration will flood in, causing much of that unemployment problem and swamp our social services that are cracking now.
- Amnesty will happen, and then free college for their kids but not yours.
I could go on and on. All this leaves me wondering if some of you realize who the enemy is? Whomever may become the GOP candidate needs to be the one that can beat Hillary. Sanders or Biden are easily beatable.
Arguing about W. is about like bitching about LBJ. Both have come and gone. Obama was able to screw us but good when he had enough friends in Congress, then stared using Executive Orders to do his dirty work. His Supreme Court nominations burdened us with a couple of real libs that are anti gun and likely anti American.
Save some of your fight to defeat Hillary. That's the problem. A "moderate" won't win. We've seen it time and again. There is a difference between "dogging" a candidate and knowing that he (Bush) is our worst chance for victory. Trump, Carson and Cruz have a lot of money, and contrary to what people believe, Trump is getting a lot of contributions that are supporting the majority of his campaign. The vast majority of Carson and Cruz's donations are in amounts less than $200. Small contributions amount to votes. All of Bush's money is coming from a few Wall Street elites. If we let the establishment buy this election we are screwed. Fine. I don't necessarily disagree. I think the Bush name alone makes him unelectable, but I'll take him over Hillary. I think Trump has a big mouth and thin skin. I think were he elected, the press would skewer him like no one since Nixon because they will be fed endless sound bites, but I'll take him over Hillary. I think Cruz is Newt Jr. I think Christie is a fatter, poorer version of Trump. I'd take him over the Neast. Carly can't stand up to the Beast. The Hildabeast in politically battle hardened. I'd still take Carly. Ben is very bright, and will make a great FOX News analyst and syndacated talk show host next year. I'd take him.
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." Han Solo
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Spot on, but you are pissing up a rope... You are most likely correct. Who is the Patron Saint of Lost Causes?????
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." Han Solo
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Good analysis, especially on the Bush name. Too bad as his record in Florida's pretty good from my perspective. His name, immigration policies AND his wife, pretty much makes him unelectable. I simply cannot stand Trump NOR do I trust him. Hope I'm wrong. As to the Patron Saint query; Augusto Pinochet 
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Spot on, but you are pissing up a rope... You are most likely correct. Who is the Patron Saint of Lost Causes????? St. Jude.
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His name, immigration policies AND his wife, pretty much makes him unelectable. I simply cannot stand Trump NOR do I trust him. Hope I'm wrong. Pretty much mirrors my feelings. Most people do not get the big fuss about immigration, but it will be what makes or breaks the U.S. in the near future, depending on how it goes. miles
Look out for number 1, don't step in number 2.
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TFF...
IMO Jeb should give up. It was HIS error not to say "My brother George kept us safe AFTER 9/11." Leaving out the word "after" left him and his brother wide open for Trump's accurate initial comment.
Unfortunately from that point, I wholeheartedly agree it degenerated into a squabble with many other mostly irrelevant points and positions being dragged onto the haystack by both Trump and Jeb!
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Fost: Sorry but I disagree, even a MORON gets the statement meant AFTER 9/11. Trump's just a typical crass, rude New Yorker. Can't stand the phoucker
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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You may have to dislike him a bit longer Jorge as only he and Jeb! have people on the ground and infrastructure in place to ensure their name is on the ballot. The others have no presence, and time is rapidly running out... Only Jeb! and Trump Truly in the Race
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I will vote for him in a heartbeat over Jeb. Truth be told, I don't like any of them from a leadership perspective, but this is strictly business and we all know what is at stake.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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You people need to spend more energy worrying about Hillary than dogging Bush/Trump/Cruz et. al. ANY of that group keeps America from going full Socialist, while a Klinton victory will kill Conservatism for the next 40 years. IF the GOP gets broken up, as many here suggest should happen, then what are you going to do with the Dems controlling the House, Senate, and the WH?
- Guns are gone
- Socialized medicine will be 100% reality, and 100% tragedy
- Our military will be a shell of its former self with no mission capability and useful for ceremony only, much like Europe
- The economy will stagnate as businesses get saddled with regulations that force higher wages and benefits as the Dem government tries to force the private sector to take some of the welfare burden.
- Unemployment will shoot up to about 10% and stay 8-10% indefinitely much like France
- Illegal immigration will flood in, causing much of that unemployment problem and swamp our social services that are cracking now.
- Amnesty will happen, and then free college for their kids but not yours.
I could go on and on. All this leaves me wondering if some of you realize who the enemy is? Whomever may become the GOP candidate needs to be the one that can beat Hillary. Sanders or Biden are easily beatable.
Arguing about W. is about like bitching about LBJ. Both have come and gone. Obama was able to screw us but good when he had enough friends in Congress, then stared using Executive Orders to do his dirty work. His Supreme Court nominations burdened us with a couple of real libs that are anti gun and likely anti American.
Save some of your fight to defeat Hillary. The problem however is that Trump cannot beat Hillary. Therefore, if we insist on making him the Republican nominee, effectively we are electing Hillary. That is why Trump must be stopped---that, and the fact that he will not reduce the scope and size of government one iota. He's already made clear he wants tax increases, wants the government to tell businesses how they should be run and loves single-payer health care.
Communists: I still hate them even after they changed their name to "liberals".
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You may have to dislike him a bit longer Jorge as only he and Jeb! have people on the ground and infrastructure in place to ensure their name is on the ballot. The others have no presence, and time is rapidly running out... Only Jeb! and Trump Truly in the Race You keep posting that link, which is just one guy's opinion, as if it were the definitive take on the election. It's not. Do you REALLY think that Cruz could get the big donors backing him if he didn't have a ground game and an overall strategy to win? REALLY.... ?
Never holler whoa or look back in a tight place
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Rather moot if Cruz (and the others) don't get their azz in gear and ensure they qualify to have their names on the primary voting ballots come March and beyond.
I like Cruz (above all the pack), however reality is he will NOT get the GOP nomination.
If you think otherwise, are you willing to place a bet?
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The problem however is that Trump cannot beat Hillary. Hillary isn't going to be the DNC nominee.
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